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This is amazing.
The New York Times is reporting that classified documents were 'leaked' outlining the war plans of the US and NATO.
They admit the docs are real, but suggest they could contain misinformation. They're real, but also not real, and if you find anything bad, consider it misinformation.
Like what?
"Military analysts said the documents appear to have been modified in certain parts from their original format, overstating American estimates of Ukrainian war dead and understating estimates of Russian troops killed."
This is almost certainly an outright lie - not only because the deaths have always been misrepresented, but because the truth is incredibly damaging to the narrative that Ukraine can win.
"One of the slides said 16,000 to 17,500 Russian soldiers had been killed while Ukraine had suffered as many as 71,500 troop deaths. The Pentagon and other analysts have estimated that Russia has suffered far more casualties, and that closer to 200,000 soldiers on each side had been killed or wounded.
Nonetheless, analysts said parts of the documents appeared authentic and provide Russia with valuable information such as the timetables for the delivery of weapons and troops, Ukrainian troop buildup numbers and other military details."
Does it sound like Russian disinformation, or does it sound like the Regime's cover is blown?
"But early on during the war, Ukrainian officials were hesitant about sharing their battle plans with the United States, for fear of leaks, American and European officials said. As recently as last summer, American intelligence officials said they often had a better understanding of Russia’s military plans than of Ukraine’s.
The intelligence sharing between Ukraine and the United States loosened up considerably last fall, and the two countries have been working closely on options for a Ukrainian offensive."
So we share all our intelligence with Ukraine, Ukraine doesn't share theirs with us because they're worried about leaks, and we know everything the Russians are doing... except can't figure out that whole Nord Stream thing. Right. Got it.
https://archive.ph/GRfxW#selection-699.0-707.184
The New York Times is reporting that classified documents were 'leaked' outlining the war plans of the US and NATO.
They admit the docs are real, but suggest they could contain misinformation. They're real, but also not real, and if you find anything bad, consider it misinformation.
Like what?
"Military analysts said the documents appear to have been modified in certain parts from their original format, overstating American estimates of Ukrainian war dead and understating estimates of Russian troops killed."
This is almost certainly an outright lie - not only because the deaths have always been misrepresented, but because the truth is incredibly damaging to the narrative that Ukraine can win.
"One of the slides said 16,000 to 17,500 Russian soldiers had been killed while Ukraine had suffered as many as 71,500 troop deaths. The Pentagon and other analysts have estimated that Russia has suffered far more casualties, and that closer to 200,000 soldiers on each side had been killed or wounded.
Nonetheless, analysts said parts of the documents appeared authentic and provide Russia with valuable information such as the timetables for the delivery of weapons and troops, Ukrainian troop buildup numbers and other military details."
Does it sound like Russian disinformation, or does it sound like the Regime's cover is blown?
"But early on during the war, Ukrainian officials were hesitant about sharing their battle plans with the United States, for fear of leaks, American and European officials said. As recently as last summer, American intelligence officials said they often had a better understanding of Russia’s military plans than of Ukraine’s.
The intelligence sharing between Ukraine and the United States loosened up considerably last fall, and the two countries have been working closely on options for a Ukrainian offensive."
So we share all our intelligence with Ukraine, Ukraine doesn't share theirs with us because they're worried about leaks, and we know everything the Russians are doing... except can't figure out that whole Nord Stream thing. Right. Got it.
https://archive.ph/GRfxW#selection-699.0-707.184