On the UK's biggest political podcast, Rory Stewart describes the grooming gangs as confined to just two towns, involving 90 or so men "paying for sex."
That's quite a way to describe men raping children, some as young as 10 years-old, and some of whom were raped so brutally that they required hysterectomies.
What's crazy is that this actually seems to be the extent of his knowledge on the scandal, and this is a man who was once in contention to be leader of the Conservative Party.
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